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Thursday Thoughts - Avoiding Distractions
On today’s Thursday Thoughts, Lucy and I are talking about avoiding distractions.
It turns out that neither of us are very good at this and we both get distracted all the time! But hopefully you will find something in here that you resonate with, or that you find useful.
The headlines: turn all notifications off on your phone, turn the sound off too, and put it across the room when you’re working!
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Polly & Lucy x
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Hello and welcome to Thursday Thoughts. Thursday Thoughts what on earth are they? I hear you ask. Well, my friend Lucy and I meet every week over on Instagram to talk all things personal growth, because she is as obsessed with it as I am, and we decided that we might as well put those conversations out as a weekly podcast. So now you can listen to us chat here on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts, and we'll be talking about topics such as spirituality, limiting beliefs, the ego imposter syndrome, gratitude, meditation, confidence and so much more. So if you're ready, here we go.
Speaker 2:I'll let you intro this one because, as I've just said, we decided about five minutes ago and it was your idea, so, um, so I'm gonna let you introduce it, okay well, today we're talking about distractions, or rather avoiding distractions.
Speaker 1:This is something which I think we all battle with.
Speaker 1:I really battle with when we try and sit down to a task and, before we know it, we've kind of distracted by something else.
Speaker 1:There's, and particularly if you work from home, there are so many other things that you could be doing your phone's pinging off, sending notifications, and actually it is such a drain in energy, in productivity, and it's something which I think we've all got to be really, really aware of and to be mindful of and find ways to help limit distractions.
Speaker 1:Because, ultimately, I saw, I read, I quickly had a quick look and just really saw that apparently, every time you get distracted away from doing the thing you want to be doing, it takes 23 minutes on average for you to get back to doing it with the same intention that you had you started with. And I also saw that, uh, every time you get distracted, your IQ drops 15 points, which apparently is the equivalent of a night's sleep. Wow, which is completely crazy. So it's really not doing us any favors and I think, ultimately, what it's doing is draining our energy and wasting so much of our precious time, which, as we know is is the one limited resource we all have. So I've struggled with distractions and, yes, I kind of know that it's something I've really got to keep working on. So for me, I have recently I've been learning about this thing called an intradian rhythm, which I watch.
Speaker 2:It's different to the pomodoro technique because I don't know if you've heard the pomodoro technique is that where you do 25 minutes, you're 25 minutes and then you have a break for five minutes, which I think is quite a well-known productivity hack.
Speaker 1:But the ultradian rhythm I learned recently in my breath science course, which is a natural rhythm which we all have, a bit like your circadian rhythm, which is your sleep-wake cycle. But your ultradian rhythm is a rhythm that your brain kind of goes into in terms of you're kind of creative, you're most productive for 90 minutes and then you need a break for about 20 minutes and then it starts building up again and then you're really productive and you're at your best for about 90 minutes and then you need to have about a 20 minute break. So this is kind of a cycle which you go through. It's a natural cycle you go through during the day. So I've really been trying to tap into that and to see where I am at my most productive, and I kind of know it's always in the morning. I'm so much more productive in the mornings than I am in the evenings.
Speaker 1:But I think what a lot of us do is that we just push. If we're really really busy, we just keep pushing on through. Well, I know that I'm guilty on this. Sometimes if I've got a lot to do, I'll just push on through, feeling that that is the best solution. But actually what I'm noticing now if I take a break for 20 minutes, whether that is going outside, having a walk, getting some fresh air sometimes now I might actually do a quick breath work practice. I might just go and make myself a hot drink or whatever it is, but to have 20 minutes away from what I'm doing, I am so much more productive when.
Speaker 1:I come back much more productive when I come back and it's something which I just have to be conscious of to just build in now to to my everyday, because, yeah, I, we can all just keep I don't know about you, lucy, but I can just keep going and going and then I do feel absolutely drained and actually then that is when I'm probably at my most distracted. I'll start checking my emails and I'll start looking at something which perhaps I need to do, and then I'll find I've kind of gone down a whole rabbit hole of something else, totally miles away from what I'm focused on. Uh, and that is what I've got to. I think. You know I don't want to be doing anymore.
Speaker 1:My phone I do put on silence when I'm actually trying to focus because, again, if that's pinging off or vibrating, you know you haven't got a hope because naturally, our dopamine you know we have this sort of desire we get a little dopamine hit every time we get that notification or we get that little red circle that you know it's like oh, what is it? What is it? We want to have a look at it. So it's about trying to put certain things in place for ourselves which help limit those distractions, and it's not saying that you can't then look at those things. It's, then, about giving yourself a window of okay, now I'm going to look at all my whatsapp messages. Now I'm going to look at my emails, because I don't know about you.
Speaker 1:When I don't have that in place which is quite often, I will look at a message or I look at an email and, because I'm busy doing something else, perhaps I won't answer or reply to that message or that email, and then I completely forget about it. And then I get someone chasing me up, going did you, did you hear that? Or I've forgotten about it, and then it's just more energy wasted and it's really. It just gets into a vicious cycle. So, yes, that's, that is where I'm coming from with it.
Speaker 2:I don't know about you yeah, I mean I, I think I'm just an absolute nightmare when it comes to distraction like I.
Speaker 2:I really I'm terrible. Um, I, I find that I mean there are. There are two things. Well, there are more than two things actually, but number one, when you talked about the 90 minute thing like, 90 minutes, I think is a a long time to to focus properly for and the only time that I can do that is when I'm doing something where I am completely in a flow state, then I just go and go and go and go.
Speaker 2:But if I'm not, and if I'm doing, you know, whatever it may be, random things or things that I don't want to do, I absolutely am better working in short bursts and I take frequent breaks throughout the day and actually excuse me, um, actually, one thing that I mean phones are, I mean they're the freaking downfall of this world. I swear they really are, and I am just as bad as the next person and actually I sometimes sometimes being the operative word will plug my phone in on the other side of the room, for my desk is so that I can't look at it, because I am one of those people who, if I see my phone light up and I see I have a notification. I cannot, I cannot ignore it. I have to look. It's like it's terrible. But actually what I've done and this is one kind of hack, I guess is actually I have turned off most of the notifications on my phone, like I do not get notifications from Instagram. I do not get notifications from Instagram, I do not get me, neither Facebook, yeah, I don't get any of those notifications. I do, however, get whatsapp notifications on my phone and I have my like, um, my various apps that I have, with my positive affirmations that come up all day, every day, on my phone, um. So I think phone, I mean really phones are, yeah, the downfall and they are the thing that is going to distract us, or me anyway, more than anything else. So I'm trying more and more to plug my phone in across the room because if I have it next to me.
Speaker 2:But then the thing is I use my phone for work. Like half the time I'm using it. For example, my membership WhatsApp group right, my Thrive Solo WhatsApp group is obviously on my phone and I like to keep across the messages as much as I can and I like to reply and I don't like to take ages to reply, and sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. But one thing that I find, polly, I don't know about you, but I am a nightmare when it comes to being about to do something. My brain is just like going off in all kinds of directions and I will have a thought.
Speaker 2:Say, for example, I'm I don't know. Say, for example, I've come back in from a walk and I'm like, oh, I just need to look up this thing that I was just thinking about, or I need to do this thing, or I need to reply to this email. I swear I will get distracted to the point where I'll go to do the thing that I was doing. Something else will distract me, like another email I'll go into that. I'll then, you know, reply to that. That will remind me of something else. So then I'll go and do something else and literally an hour can go by and I'm like shit.
Speaker 2:I haven't even done the thing that I came on here to do what this is ridiculous, and also because, in the nature of the work that I do, it's endless, because there is always something that I have to do. There are there are always emails to reply to, there are always messages to reply to. You know, there's always something. And so it's really like worryingly easy for me to get distracted and go off on all kinds of tangents, and then I'll get an idea for the podcast, and then I'll be like oh, I've just got to look this thing up because, you know, whatever, whatever it is, my mind just goes in all kinds of directions. I'm actually really terrible. But actually, speaking about the um, the pomodoro method, um, when I, when I was writing my book, which I can finally talk openly about on Instagram, to announce it because of it, because of the Waterstones promotion that's still running today if anyone wants to order pre-order, shiny, happy singles, um, but I sometimes did that with writing, because writing a book like it's so bloody hard, and one thing I've learned is that you cannot wait for inspiration to strike, you cannot wait to be in the mood to write you, you. It just doesn't work like that. You have to sit down and fucking write, even if you just do like a paragraph, and actually I would quite often do that 25 minute thing where I would just, and I would literally set my phone on a timer for 25 minutes and write and then, more often than not, when the alarm go off, I'll, then I'd be so into it that I'd carry on or I would take a five minute break. But again, going back to the thing that you were talking about, 90 minutes seems like an awfully long time for us to be fully, fully concentrating. And I know that, like I say, unless I'm in, unless I'm seriously in a flow state doing something that I'm just completely immersed in and I'm just not thinking about anything else, I'm not thinking about the time, unless it's that 90 minutes is a bloody long time to concentrate and I don't think that we are meant to actually like really properly concentrate for 90 minutes. That that's. That's a that's a long time. I think, and I'm sure that I've read sort of over the years, that actually really the human brain can focus properly, properly, properly, for no more than about 45 minutes. But I'm sure it's one of those things that depends what you read, doesn't? It depends who you're listening to. Everyone's got different, everyone's got different opinions on this, um, but yeah, the 90 minute thing does does scare me slightly, because I I am one of those people.
Speaker 2:I feel like I need to stretch my legs, get some fresh air, just take a break, yeah, more than every hour and a half. I mean, it's different when you're, it's different when you're kind of sitting in an office, and it is. I think in some ways it is harder when you work from home because there are so many. You know, oh, am I just I'm just going to quickly do the washing up, or I'm just quickly gonna make some lunch, or I'm just quickly gonna make a drink, or I'm just quickly gonna do this or that or whatever. It's very, very, very easy to get distracted. I mean, polly, to be honest, I don't think I'd be much use in this conversation because I don't know that I have very many hacks to not be distracted because I'm just always being distracted by something, so you're gonna have to be the voice of reason, okay, and the voice of the voice of help.
Speaker 1:Well, because, I don't I don't know if I'm particularly brilliant at this either. To be honest, I I don't think I am particularly brilliant at this and just going back to the Euclidean rhythm cycle, that is more of like a, you know, that's just a natural rhythm of kind of how long you, you know where you're, kind of where you can focus, I think and obviously everyone's going to be different but it's kind of almost like just being aware that that is the case. So when not giving yourself a hard time, that when suddenly your focus goes, that actually it's just because you're in part, you're in that probably down stage of that cycle. Um, so it's just that. That's all that is about, and I think it's just a matter of working out what works for you, yeah, and for me, I think, with my phone. You said, like you know, you have your notifications on for whatsapp. I have my notifications on for whatsapp. However, I still put my phone on silent throughout most of the day, so that, uh, it doesn't do. It doesn't make any noises or doesn't do anything?
Speaker 2:mine doesn't either. My notifications are all silent yeah, like so any notifications that come from my phone, like whatsapp I've turned the sound off for that ages ago. I haven't hadn't, I couldn't bear all the pings.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, that that's yeah, yeah so I I mean I and I I'm saying this just as much to myself as I am to you what the best way to do it and I'm not, and I definitely don't do this all the time is to do whatever you need to do, try and focus on it if it's for 25 minutes or whatever, but then, kind of almost as a reward, treat yourself. Say, right now I'm going to look at the whatsapp and I'm going to respond to their messages, rather than I think we all feel we have this need to respond immediately to any sort of message which comes in.
Speaker 1:We don't, we didn't used to, so why do we need to be able to have to respond to everything and be on all the time? And it's also I get, I find in particularly in the evenings when I feel really, really I generally feel quite tired because I've been up quite early that I just don't have the bandwidth to respond to anything in the evenings, and so what I need to get better at is not actually even looking at it, and because I think if you're not going to respond there, and then if you're not, or when you open up something, you shouldn't be opening it up, because that is when I fall down. Is that then you miss stuff or you forget about things because you, I know that I'm up because that is when I fall down. Is that then you miss stuff or you forget about things because you, I know that I'm not going to respond? So I think maybe having an intention of when you open up an email, when you open up a message, have you got the bandwidth to respond to that there and then?
Speaker 1:So it's kind of almost trying to block your time right after my 25 minutes of work. I'm going to give myself a couple of minutes of break and look at that, but then also to remember that that shouldn't really be classified as a break, because you're still stimulated, you're still looking at a screen. What we should be doing as a break is actually resting our eyes, looking upwards, going outside, going in the garden, doing what you know. Get, having a proper break away from the screen, yeah, um you know, I, I completely agree.
Speaker 2:You're right, it's not really a break, is it kind of replying to messages? But speaking of the evening thing, I have to say I am terrible. I will be replying to emails up to about nine o'clock at night, sometimes, like I cannot, and this is it's. It's, it's like a freaking illness. It's like a fricking illness, it's like a compulsion. I, I find it's really hard to leave emails until the next day, not least because actually you know, when it comes to like work, so like you know, sitting down, so what am I trying to say? So, basically, work might be writing a podcast episode or recording, um, you know know, reading a chapter of the book club book for thrive solo and then recording. That's actual sort of actual work.
Speaker 2:But all of the messages and all that kind of admin around, everything that I have to do, ends up. It takes up so much time and actually sometimes the evening is when I will catch up on emails and reply to emails and reply to messages and it's and it's so, so bad. But partly one of the reasons I do it is because I like starting the morning knowing that I can't bear waking up in the morning and having emails sat there from yesterday. That stresses me out Like I have to in my inbox. I I kind of have like, obviously, my inbox well, I don't know about you, but my inbox is never empty, because it's just like there are a load of emails in my inbox that have been in there for god knows how long. But the but the top one is kind of my, my, um, what you call it. Like there's a, there's a certain one at the top of my inbox, that when that's at the top of the inbox, that means that everything, all the kind of recent stuff, is clear. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:so and then all the other ones. God knows why they're even still in my inbox. But I do. I do like to clear my emails before the next day, um, so that that will often fall to the evening, because if I've been working on whatever it is during the day and I might have replied to the odd email during the day, but then it makes me have like major anxiety to have loads of emails that have come in that day and that I've then got to reply to the next day. But that's my bad, because I need to get over this ridiculous obsession of I have to reply to this. But you know, if I don't reply to this person within you know, three hours of them emailing me, then I'm a'm a bad person.
Speaker 2:It's the people pleaser in me. It's ridiculous and it definitely is. It's that people pleaser going oh shit, I've got to reply to this right now Because I feel guilty for whatever reason, whereas you know, I know people. My sister is the first person who springs to mind. She is that person who will reply to a WhatsApp message like a week later, and literally that gives me anxiety and it drives me mad that she sometimes doesn't respond to things for ages. But actually you know why the hell should she?
Speaker 2:We're not obliged to respond to messages immediately, but again, I have this awful compulsion that makes me feel really guilty when I don't reply even. Um, I mean, I've definitely got better at like leaving whatsapp messages until the next day, because sometimes in the evening I'm just like you know what, I'm just I'm not, I'm just not going there and I won't, and actually I won't even open them until the next day because, like you were saying, you can sometimes open a message and if you don't reply to it there and then, um, you kind of forget about it. Uh, I'm not sure that this conversation is remotely helpful for anyone in terms of how to actually help well, I I'm definitely not helping.
Speaker 1:I think I'm probably making everyone feel massively stressed no well I think what you're highlighting is the is the importance of the need to have boundaries. So having, which was going to be a topic we were going to talk about we realised we'd already done that. But in the having your personal boundaries and I think you know, if that's the only time you have to look at your emails is in the evening, then save them up until the evening and do them, rather than doing bits and bobs throughout the day I think the problem is is when we're just constantly multitasking to like the millionth degree. We're just doing this, doing that all day. Then actually it's virtually impossible to target on any one thing. So I think you know you said, actually, well, I'll block out recording a podcast or recording this, or then that's fine if you're getting those jobs done and that is the only time you have to do your emails. Fair enough, you do them when you know. If that's what you want to do, you block out that time for you. Uh, I think it.
Speaker 1:The problem is is when you're being really unintentional and you're just, you know, really flitting around. That is when it's about. You know you're probably more unproductive, yeah, and wasting more energy than you need to to do. Yeah, really, um, so yeah, for me, I'm oh, yeah, I I've really got to get better, because I can see what you're saying. You know, when you open up an email, actually there might be something you've got to do in response to that and that's actually then going to take up time. So you've got to make sure that you've got that capacity to be able to give it what it needs. And for me, I don't want to be doing that in the night, in the evening, absolutely no way. So, yeah, maybe it's kind of blocking out another time where you can, that's right.
Speaker 1:I'm dedicating this to look through my emails. I tend to look at my emails first thing in the morning. That's when I do mine, uh, but you know, we're all different, it's all it's. It's about, yeah, putting in personal boundaries, about did you know what? What you're going to allow in in terms of your digital world, but I suppose also what you're going to allow in externally as well. So are there people as well who are calling on your time, distracting you? So Boundaries is quite connected with this in terms of trying not to get distracted. It's about really making sure you know that you're not trying to please everybody. Do everything immediately, because at this day and age. We are being bombarded from every single direction. Yeah, you know people. Everybody wants a piece of our time or wants something, and it's virtually impossible to answer all of it straight away and also, yeah, I think, sorry, love, carry on.
Speaker 2:No, no, go on. No, I was going to say also, you know we forget that, we, that there always are those things that come, those sort of unexpected interruptions. Do you know what I mean from? Like somebody reaches out to you about something and then that sort of takes you off down another path that you hadn't even considered. Yeah, um, going back to time blocking, I do try. I mean in my um, my big planner, that is my, my rose gold a4 clever fox planner, um, I do actually, in fact. For example, last night I was doing this.
Speaker 2:So on a Sunday evening I will quite often take out my diary. My diary is always open on my desk because I'm constantly looking at it, because I put everything in this diary. And on a evening I will look ahead to the week, you know, to see what's coming up. And so, for example, I'll look ahead and see, you know, what interviews do I have, what Zoom calls do I have, what do I actually have this week? And then I will block out time around those things to you know like, say, newsletter, or I've got to write three newsletters this afternoon, or I've got to write a mini-sode or a solo episode or whatever it is. I do find it quite you well, very useful actually to even if I don't stick to all of these things, because inevitably I will never finish all of the things I've put in my diary, like ever but it but it's a good guide.
Speaker 2:And I think you know what the thing that sticks out most to me actually, two things. Number one and I need to, I'm absolutely talking to myself, I need to not have my phone on my desk when I'm working. It's just it's game over, it's ridiculous. And number two and I did do this for a while actually is that I started to actually close my mail on my laptop, because one thing I did do was I turned off.
Speaker 2:You know, when you have a little on my my laptop, I used to have it and when an email came through it, I turned the sound off for that ages ago, but it would. It would like you'd see the email come in. It would like come in. You know, even if you have like a word document open, you would see the email come in. It would like come in. You know, even if you have like a Word document open, you would see the email come in. I turn that off so I don't see emails coming in now. But you know I still have to have the discipline to not go and check them. So actually for a while I did start closing my mail while I was working and I think that's quite a good hack you just close your email completely.
Speaker 2:Maybe, I might be the only one that doesn't do this. Everyone else is probably going. Well, lucy, I already freaking, do that, you weirdo, but I, I, you know, I don't know, but I think it's. It's the phone and the email are the two in my life anyway, the two biggest distractions, and, like you say, it might just be a question of leaving it until you know, having an hour in the afternoon, that's another thing actually.
Speaker 2:Um, speaking of sort of productivity hacks is always I will try and do the thing that I really don't want to do first thing in the morning, so I will put something easier in the afternoon. For example, editing, like editing, takes a long time, but it's, but I find, you know, it's easy, it's. You know, relatively speaking, it's. I can kind of be quite mindless when I'm editing, whereas when I'm trying to write an episode, I need to, I need to be sort of, you know, fresher in my brain. So I think that this isn't even about distraction, is it? I'm not even talking about the thing we're meant to be talking about now well, it's, it's about.
Speaker 1:Well it's kind of is because it's about being productive. It's about trying to, yeah, get them, make the most out of your, make the most out of your day and get things. It's getting things done without being distracted. So, yes, I agree, it's just like, um, it's a myth. I think it's interesting because for me, probably up until this, my biggest distractions have been other people disturbing me and walking in when I'm in the middle of something, asking me to do something.
Speaker 2:The difference between me having a family and me being single, like I don't have to walk in distractions, so that's a distraction I don't even have to deal with and none of my listeners will, but yours, of course, will do.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, my God, I can't even imagine what that would be like yeah, people constantly wanting you to do things. It's. It's obviously better now because, um, so my kids aren't away and but you know, even having my husband working from home, having but my daughter gets back from school, you know she needs things. It's about, you know, those are other distractions I have to manage and I have tried really hard about right, when my door is closed it means that I'm busy, no one is to come in, and then they always still, it doesn't mean anything, they still come in. So that's, that's always really hard. So, again, that's about putting their boundaries in place and making it super clear you cannot come in unless you are dying. You are not, you are not coming in, but it still seems to be it always. It doesn't really work.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, there's distractions of lots of different natures and I suppose if you worked in um, in an office, you know you've got distractions of your colleagues, people wanting you to do things and yeah, so that, yeah, it's how it's. It's. So, I think, just setting intentions about how you're going to work, putting strong boundaries in place of what's acceptable and, yeah, blocking your time, um right, and just being intentional what am I going to achieve in this time? And then just turning everything off and focusing. I'm talking to myself now as well. I need to be doing.
Speaker 1:This is so much more than I do. I think we all do. I think, yeah, you know, it's virtually impossible. And I look at my kids trying to do school work and I'm just like you take, take your phone away, or, but then everything's on their laptop. You know my daughter, it's all on her, her. She's got an iPad but she does all her school work on and it's like, well, it's sort of I can't do my schoolwork if I don't have it, so we're all doomed with this, this is so difficult.
Speaker 1:Sorry, that's not the motivation we want to be giving across this really hasn't been motivational at all, has it?
Speaker 2:one thing I was going to say, actually about office environments, because obviously I worked in offices for years and years um, and one thing I would say is that if there is, if you're trying to get something done, because if you're anything like me, when I was, when I worked in an office, I would end up like wasting so much time just chatting to my colleagues, just like chat, chat, chat, chat. In fact, do you know what? When I was at Radio 2 this is hilarious when I was at Radio 2, I for a while I sat next to my, my work bestie, janine. We used to sit, we, we moved, the there was a big office move and we didn't used to sit, sit actually next to each other, and then, when we moved, we ended up sitting next to each other and we ended up literally every morning we were coming and we would just like sit and talk. We just sit at our desks and just chat on to each other for ages and ages, to the point where they moved us apart. This was literally, you know, in my very, very, very adult life, in my like, would it have been my early, yeah, my early 40s? And like we literally got moved. We got moved like school children because we, because we, used to spend our lives just talking to each other instead of working.
Speaker 2:Anyway, all I was going to say is that one, one trick that I used to sometimes do at work would be to take myself off to like a meeting room and, if I wanted to get something done actually physically, move away from your team and go to I don't know the cafeteria or go to a meeting room. If that's possible. That is one way, because otherwise there is. You know, in an office there are so many distractions. There's always another cup of coffee to be made in the kitchen and there's always somebody in the kitchen who wants to chat and you're like oh my God, it's been an hour.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, moving to a meeting room is a potential um distraction avoidant in an office environment yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah, so, um well, I don't know how I don't know how helpful we've been this morning.
Speaker 1:I think maybe that we empathize with anyone who's easily distracted. We get it, we, we. It's really bloody hard. So I think it's just about being again. It's just being aware, bringing it back to being aware of what are your distractions. Can you limit them? Can you silence your phone? Can you silence all your notifications and just try and notice and take breaks, because I think that's important as well.
Speaker 2:Take breaks when you need to away from your away from your phone totally, but turning notifications off is a game changer. Yeah, like, like, like anyone who has all of their notifications popping up on their screen, get rid of them yeah, if I had all of my notifications coming up, I would literally never get anything done.
Speaker 2:No, you can turn off. Turn off the notification so that they don't like. So you have to. For example, you have to go into instagram to see if you have a message, or you have to go into whatsapp to see if you have a message or email or whatever. Like you know, to have all of those notifications coming up and making a noise would just be like beyond, so get rid of notifications again. I think probably most people are going. Well, I already do that, you absolute lunatic, so anyway, that's all I got all right.