MENOMORPHOSIS
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Thursday Thoughts - Comfort Zones
On this week's Thursday's Thoughts, Lucy and I are diving into the magic that happens outside your comfort zone.
Because when you do something that feels a bit uncomfortable? You’re not just edging closer to your dreams and desires—you’re also giving your confidence a serious boost.
We’re sharing some of our own stories about times we’ve stepped out of our comfort zones and offering a few tips on how you can do the same, in a way that feels doable—not daunting.
We hope there’s something in here for you to take away.
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Hello and welcome to Thursday Thoughts. Thursday Thoughts what on earth are they? I hear you ask. Well, my friend Lucy and I meet every week over on Instagram to talk all things personal growth, because she is as obsessed with it as I am, and we decided that we might as well put those conversations out as a weekly podcast. So now you can listen to us chat here on Apple Podcasts or Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts, and we'll be talking about topics such as spirituality, limiting beliefs, the ego imposter syndrome, gratitude, meditation, confidence and so much more. So if you're ready, here we go.
Speaker 1:Right well, this morning we are talking all things comfort zones, yeah, so I think we've talked a lot about comfort zones and how important it is to push ourselves out of our comfort zones, because at the other side of that, discomfort often is where the magic happens. So do you want to?
Speaker 2:start this morning? Yeah, sure, do you want to? Do you want to start? Yeah, um, yeah, sure, I mean I I have to say this is one of my favorite topics to talk about, because I think it is just so important because, ultimately, if we want to make any kind of change in our life, we cannot make a change unless we get out of our comfort zone.
Speaker 2:And I think we're so resistant to feeling discomfort I mean we're resistant to change, but I mean that's a whole other topic but we're so resistant to feeling and this is key to feeling embarrassed or feeling you know the what, that worry of what other people think, and so we just so often stay inside of our comfort zone. But there is no growth, there is no expansion when you stay inside of your comfort zone. And I honestly think that you, you have, you absolutely have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable if you want to improve your life up, level your life, elevate your life. It's just, it's essential, and you and I both know from from the last few years in our lives, I mean, we've had to get uncomfortable multiple, multiple times, and the thing is, it's just one of those things. You just got to fucking do it, you just have to do it. There's no like oh, but I'll, you know, okay, I just need to just wait, just wait, just wait. I just need to get prepared that, no, it doesn't work like that. You have to. You literally have to make yourself get, get outside of your comfort zone in order to start changing things in your life and making your life better. And yeah, it's not easy. But guess what? You know, you choose your hard and when you do the hard things now, like getting outside of your comfort zone, when you just do those things over and over again, you're actually making your life down the line that much easier. It's like choose your heart. You know, either we can do the really easy things now, we can stay in our comfort zone and do what you know, be comfortable and stay safe and all the rest of it, but actually that's going to lead to harder things down the line, whereas if you do the difficult things now, if you get out of your comfort zone now, you're actually going to make your life easier down the line. Um, but I think it really is. Just, we have to realize that growth is on the other side of our comfort zone and again, it doesn't. Of course it doesn't feel good because it's uncomfortable, but ultimately it's not going to kill us.
Speaker 2:And and also, the more that you it's like a muscle, the more that you train yourself to just do. And you don't have to do anything major initially. You can just do something. You can start with something really small, like maybe you, maybe you want to reach out to someone by email and you're a bit scared because you're scared that they're not going to reply or you're going to get a no or whatever it is. You can, you can start with something relatively small. Maybe you really feel called to start posting on Instagram, but you're terrified. Fuck me, I've been there and you know, maybe the first thing you do is you just do a little carousel post and then maybe you do a reel and then maybe you you talk to the camera and then maybe you do a live. So it's like you don't have to do everything immediately, it's just little baby steps.
Speaker 2:And when you build that muscle of getting out of your comfort zone, it's it's not that it becomes less, less uncomfortable, it's.
Speaker 2:It's not that it becomes less, less uncomfortable, it's just that it becomes easier to sit with that discomfort.
Speaker 2:But I really, you know, like you said, the magic is on the other side of it and it's so true, at least in my experience, everything that I've done over the last few years that has been uncomfortable has has led to something good coming from that, not least the feeling that you get in yourself from just pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone, because when you're remaining the same and you're doing the same things and you're not doing anything that scares you or anything that makes you feel uncomfortable, then it doesn't actually make you feel very good about yourself, whereas when you choose to get uncomfortable, you know, your confidence grows and that's a really good feeling and that just leads to lots of great things.
Speaker 2:So I think it really is something that we have to be willing to do, unless we are genuinely happy to stay exactly where we are, exactly where we are and we don't want any more. But I think most of us, if we get honest with ourselves, most of us, I think, probably want more and know that we're capable of more and aspire to more, but we kind of push those feelings down because we don't want to get uncomfortable, you know.
Speaker 1:Yes yes, exactly, yeah, it's. It's about if you want it, about recognising in yourself that if you want something more, if you want something to improve, if you want to do something, but there's that little voice inside you going, oh, but that's really scary. No, I don't want to do that. No, I can't do that. I mean, I think what you were saying about, uh, sending emails to people you don't know, that's always been something. Or making a phone call to somebody you don't know, that's always something I never really enjoyed doing. And yet, actually, unless you take some of those actions, what's going to happen? Yeah, zero, nothing's going to happen. So it's about recognizing when to happen. So it's about recognising when you are holding you know. It's that awareness. Again, it's about becoming aware. When are you holding yourself back? When are you choosing not to take those actions which bring up some of those really uncomfortable feelings of like, oh no, but what if they say, is that, what if they say no? What if not? What if they think I'm really stupid? It's that fear of rejection often which stops us and that that is what can make you feel really a little bit awkward and it's not very nice. So, actually, what do we do? We just avoid it and we don't do it and then zero happens and that makes you feel sick, really shit about yourself. That's when we just get stuck in that autopilot mode of just going through the motions, living our lives, not really feeling massively fulfilled. You might do if, as you said, if you're very happy living as you are, then great and that is amazing and that you got to a place which is really satisfying for you. But I think this is when actually, you have bigger dreams and you have bigger desires. And it's about recognizing some of those actions, some of those steps that need to be taken, and they do feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:And as human beings, we were designed all those thousands of years ago to try and seek comfort, because when we were out hunting and gathering our food and there were so many real dangers out there and you had to protect yourself in order to retain your energy and to keep safe. So that is why we kind of are primed to kind of steer towards. Let's just find the comfortable option, because when all those years ago, life was so damn harsh, you were constantly getting uncomfortable. So actually, if you, whenever you could take a little bit of comfort, you were kind of looking for it and seeking it. But today kind of tables have turned.
Speaker 1:Actually, we are so comfortable, more comfortable than we have ever ever been. We sleep in really lovely, cozy, warm beds. We have deliver. We can order food at the drop of a, literally at the drop of a button. We can sit on comfortable sofas. We're warm, we're cozy. In cold weather we can cool down when it's hot. We are so damn comfortable. So we've. I think sometimes that makes it even harder now to get uncomfortable to do the thing. So we just settle, we settle and then we just don't feel good about ourselves. So, yes, it's about not terrifying yourself, because then you can actually go the other way. It's not about doing maybe the most extreme thing, because then you're going to put your system in such a state of shock. It's about taking those small little actions, which is about stretching you. That's the real, that's the zone of genius is when you get that stretch.
Speaker 1:So, it's just like a bit of a balloon, if you think about blowing up. When you blow up a balloon, the more you stretch it, the easier it is to blow up. And then you blow it up and then it deflates and it's that little bit stretchier again. Then you blow it up, it's a little bit easier, it gets a little bit bigger. That's what we want is those the stretch, yeah, and it.
Speaker 1:So it is about just take. It's just about being brave, taking, having that courage. You know that courage is what's so important. And just going, fuck it, I'm going to do it and you feel that's the thing, the feelings on the other side are totally worth it, because then you've proved to yourself you can do it and you feel bloody amazing. And then you have that what's the word word? You have that proof that you can do it and you are stronger. So, but the next time you want to take that action and it feels a little bit uncomfortable, you've got evidence from when you did it before so you can do it again and you can go a little bit further.
Speaker 1:And, yeah, I mean all the things that you and I have done in the last few years getting. I mean a lot of it's about being about visibility, getting visible, but also putting things out into the world and not knowing if it's going to work. Some of them have failed and some don't get me wrong some of them have failed. A lot of things have failed and have fallen flat on their face and don't work and it's just about and you know it's still not easy, it's still uncomfortable and you still have to have that courage, but it's about just keeping going, keeping going, moving forward and over time you do just become. You're kind of on an upward trajectory and you feel like you are growing and you are expanding and that that I do believe, as human beings, is how we're designed and how we you know how what makes us feel that sense of fulfillment?
Speaker 2:100. You know, ultimately we are, we're meant to feel alive, like how many of us actually feel alive, like excited by life, because we're not fucking meant to come here to just like pay bills, pay our taxes and die. We're not, we're. We're meant to, we're meant to live, we're meant to feel alive, but we've just been conditioned to think that, you know, oh god, well, this, this feeling of, like, you know, averageness and and yeah, well, you know, I feel okay, but we've, we think that that's enough, or we've been sort of conditioned to to believe that's enough. But I believe that you said it's about people have bigger dreams and bigger goals, and I think that we all do. I think every single one of us, when we're honest with ourselves, has bigger dreams and bigger goals. We all have dreams. We just push them aside because we assume that they're not possible and we just pretend that they don't really exist and we just, you know, we brush them off, we, we suppress them because we're like, well, that's never going to happen for me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I so, yeah, for starters, I think that we, we all, have bigger dreams and in order to reach for them and achieve them and get to that point, you know you absolutely have to do something differently, and that is always going to involve getting uncomfortable Always. There's no two ways about it. There's no way around it, there's no way over it, there's no way under it. You have to just go through it. But it does get easier when you start to do things that make you feel uncomfortable, when you get used to sitting with that discomfort, like I think it's just it's getting used to that feeling of of feeling uncomfortable. And and also going back to what you were saying about, you know we all have, like, lovely beds and blah blah. But I think this isn't so much necessarily about physical comfort, because, like we're, like you know, it's great to have physical comforts, it's great to have lovely food, it's great to have a nice, a nice home and a comfy bed and all that.
Speaker 2:I think you and I are talking more about psychological discomfort rather than practical physical discomfort. It's that psychological discomfort, it's that feeling in your body of like, oh god, I'm really like this is. You know, I don't want to do this. I mean, an example could be maybe you want, maybe you know that you deserve a pay rise at work, but you're terrified of asking your boss because you don't want to piss them off. You're, you're convinced they're going to say no, and having that conversation terrifies you. I mean, this is quite a good example of pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone. You know, sending that email to your boss Can we have a chat, can I? If you've got 10 minutes, I'd like to talk to you about something. And going in there and having that conversation, that feels so uncomfortable. And also we have to ask ourselves, like, what is the worst that's going to happen? Am I going to die if I ask my boss for a pay rise and he says no, no, you're not. But you know, you're never going to know that it might have been a yes, unless you get uncomfortable, and it could be.
Speaker 2:You know, speaking of sort of physical things, it could be like, um, you know, going for that. I mean, this is a physical thing, but it's also a mental thing. Like you know, going for a run like that is, you know, if you're, if you're not, a runner, it's pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. But you, you know that is. You know, if you're, if you're not a runner, it's pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. But you, you know that if you, if you do that, on the other side there's going to be growth, you're going to get fitter. You know, if you want to lose weight, that's going to help and all the rest of it. And it's just taking the little tiny step, just doing half a mile or walking fast for 30 minutes and just kind of building it up and gradually getting outside of your comfort zone. Um, but yeah, I think I think the kind of discomfort that you and I talk about mainly is that mental, psychological discomfort of doing the things that scare you. Sorry, what were you going to say?
Speaker 1:love. Yeah. So you know, I was going to say exactly that is exactly. It's taking doing the things, taking the actions, which which bloody terrify you.
Speaker 1:But there is a I think there is a physical discomfort in the set I'm thinking about exercise as well. You know, if you are picking up a slightly heavier weight, or if you're going for a slightly longer run, or if you are stretching your body a little bit further or whatever, and that it's it. It kind of applies to that in the sense that you've got to again just accept that I'm right, this is going to be a little bit harder than I would rather it was, and that can be quite scary, and you stay always with the same weights. You don't want to go to the next, to the next level, but actually, again, when you go to the next level and then you do it, and then the feeling you get on the other side is amazing. It's like my god, I did it, I can do it. And again, it's just that building of that evidence that you can do it, yeah, and that's what fuels you for the next time to go back, and maybe the next time you don't do it, maybe it's, you know, but but you know you can get there. It's building that self-trust in yourself. So, there, I think that exercise is a really good example in terms of that physical.
Speaker 1:But also, you know, I'm sorry I'm now thinking about another physical, but you know, if you go, um, I'm just thinking like going backpacking or going, you know, and taking away your creature comforts and actually getting you know into nature. That always really surprises me how easy it is to get. You know, we spent years as a family and with my kids going on camping holidays. We'd go on big old road trips to France, to Europe, and honestly, I just love camping because it just strips out all the stuff and actually it's just living back at basics. It's just all you're worrying about is what you're going to eat. You're out outside in nature and, yes, I always made it really cozy and comfortable, but I love that and I know it's still. You know you've still got a level of comfort, but sometimes it's good to remind yourself that we don't need all this stuff, which we have to be, to be happy and to have a really, really amazing time totally.
Speaker 2:Um, I wonder whether we should just maybe give a few examples of when you and I have got out of our comfort zones, just to sort of so what? Let me ask you, polly, can you think, can you give an example or a couple of examples of times when you've done things that have made you feel really uncomfortable, but there's but there's been a but there's been a a positive payoff which they're generally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, the biggest one for me was the podcast, without a shadow of a doubt, because for me that and and honestly, lucy it still is, it still is, although it's that for me when I first started, that podcast was probably one of the scariest things I've ever done, because for me it didn't feel, it's never felt, natural to speak up, use my voice. It was always something which absolutely bloody terrified me and I. But I did it, I did it and I'm still doing it and it still does. It still does push me out of my comfort zone regularly, on regular occasions. Whenever before I talk to anyone or interview anybody, I still get butterflies, but once I'm in it I'm fine, because now I've kind of got used to it, but it still is pushing me all the time. It still is pushing me all the time.
Speaker 1:But what I love is when I I've, you know, afterwards it's like, oh, I've done it and I can now look back at all of these different episodes I've created and all the conversations I've had and it feels like such an amazing sense of achievement. It's really helped me to find confidence in my voice and speaking out. And, yeah, I mean, for me that has been one of the best things I have ever done. It really has helped me to grow as a as a person. So I'd say, for me, that is that has been one of the proudest things I've done. I did have a break last year, um, and I think for me I needed to do that, but coming back now and it's not, you know as well as you know it's, it's, it's a lot of work, but the other thing which is on the other side of doing it, is all the connections that you make with so many different people and there's just so many positives to it that, yeah, that that has been a really big one for me. What about you? What's been?
Speaker 2:them. Yeah, no, I would, I would, I would say the same and, but more specifically, thinking about like as an a particular aspect of podcasting. You know you mentioned interviews and you know, as you know I do, I have a guest every week and when I first started the podcast, I was absolutely fucking terrified about doing interviews. I was like I don't know what. I literally don't know what I'm doing. I've never done this before. I don't know what I'm doing and I did it anyway and it did feel really uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:But now I can kind of like, if I'm, if I'm particularly busy, which at the moment I am, you know, I can kind of like, if I'm, if I'm particularly busy, which at the moment I am, you know, I can kind of not like, okay, when I first used to interview people, I would do so much research like I would be so prepped because I was so terrified, I was like I have to know everything about this person because, you know, I just felt like I needed to, whereas these days, if I'm a bit behind, I can, you know, I can confidently spend like half an hour going oh shit, I haven't researched this person at all and I can or maybe an hour, like I can prep it. I know now how. I know now the best ways for me personally to prep an interview. I can quickly whip up some quick, some questions. And also, because I've been doing it for so long, my, my interviewing skills have improved, I hope I've become much more confident and now I can pretty much hop on an interview with anyone without knowing, without knowing very much about them at all, and just be able to have a conversation and just organically ask them questions. And that is because I put myself out of my comfort zone three and a half years ago and I've done it again and again, and again and again and again and I've got more and more and more and more comfortable with it. That isn't to say, by the way, that I don't still get nervous I do.
Speaker 2:And there are some people like I've had some guests in particular who, for whatever reason, have I felt really intimidated by like I had. I remember having somebody called Rebecca Traster on who's who's, an author and a writer and she's super intelligent, and I was just like so far out of my comfort zone. I was just like, oh my god, this woman is just you know who am I to be interviewing this woman, um, but again, I just kind of did it. You just you just do it, and it's almost like when you, when you don't, when you don't give you and I mean a podcast is a brilliant example of this, because if you say you're going to start a podcast and you're going to be committed to that, then you kind of don't have a choice, you've just got to show up and do it, you've just got to deal with it. And so I think, in in many ways, it's good to kind of it's good to declare when you're going to do something or, you know, tell someone or post about it or whatever, because then you're holding yourself accountable by telling other people and then you've just got to do it. Um, so I mean that's, that's a really good.
Speaker 2:I mean for me, as you know, like Instagram lives oh my god, the first time I did an Instagram live, I did it for about a minute. I literally I was so scared, like so scared, and I did it. Some reason I decided to sit in my car. I don't know why. I sat in my car and it took me and I'm not kidding, it took me about 45 minutes to pluck up the courage to press the live button and I felt like I was going to vomit. I was just like, oh my god, and it was terrifying and it was awful and I did it.
Speaker 2:I think I don't know whether it's even. It was awful and I did it. I think I don't know whether it's even still. I think I probably deleted it. I probably didn't share that one, but I was literally on there for a minute and I kind of went uh, I can't even what the hell I was wanging on about, but it was absolutely terrifying. But then I did it once for one minute and then I did it again and then obviously, you and I decided to do these every week. And now showing up on Instagram live genuinely doesn't faze me. I mean sometimes when, like you and I've talked about this, because whoever starts these lives, we see who comes in. So today I've no idea if anyone's even watching or if they are, who's come in. But that's one of the things that still completely throws me is if I see someone I know coming into the live I'm like, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, and it really throws me is if I see someone I know coming into the live, I'm like, oh my god, and it really throws me um, but but yeah, I mean I think that's a really good example of something that is is it gives you that psychological discomfort, that mental discomfort like oh god, it just feels so yuck, but then when you do it you feel proud of yourself and you, you, you have a little bit more confidence.
Speaker 2:And then you do it again and you have a little bit more confidence, and then you do it again and you have a little bit more confidence, exactly. I mean, it's so interesting, isn't it?
Speaker 1:because we both say that when we do anything, so anything I do, whether it's my podcast, whether it's anything on Instagram, whether it's a live presentation or whatever it is I'm. I'm actually generally so much better when I'm with a bunch of people who I haven't got a clue they are, who I just don't know.
Speaker 1:It doesn't really bother me that much anymore, but the moment I've got somebody who I know in, who's watching or listening, or or you know someone who says to me oh I was listening to your podcast, who I know?
Speaker 1:Or someone, yeah, as you say, on an Instagram live and I suddenly see someone's name pop up who I know, you know, then that I feel so uncomfortable. It's the worst. I feel so awkward and I don't and I don't quite under. I don't quite know why that is, and I think it's probably because you probably care more about what they may think, because they know you better, but that is the most uncomfortable thing and it's a ridiculous thing, because ultimately, they're the people who are probably so happy for you and you know flying your flag and supporting you, but it is still that I find so uncomfortable and I think there's something just gonna have to get on with and get over it. The other thing that's, though, talking about things which make me feel uncomfortable I really did used to find uncomfortable was talking in front of a load of people live, because when I used to do, like in.
Speaker 1:PR a million years ago. Um, I was once pulled into this pitch and it was for coca-cola and I was the junior member on this pitch and it was for Coca-Cola and I was the junior member on this team and it was all. It was like the the the kind of big wigs in my PR consultancy who were presenting and they obviously felt they needed someone junior to come and come along with them. So I was pulled in late so I didn't really know, I hadn't put it together and I didn't really know what it was all about. But they gave me a bit to present and, my god, I just fluffed it so badly because I don't really know what I was talking about. You know when you suddenly you're talking and it's like oh god, I really don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And then then went bright red. Really embarrassed, I was like everyone's looking at me. It was the worst thing. I just literally wanted this floor to swallow me up. I wanted to burst into tears. It was not good and that just reinforced my fear of public speaking, of doing anything in front of people, so that really set me back loads. So even now I think I'm okay.
Speaker 1:Like the other day I did something. I was doing a. I was guiding a live breathwork thing at Brighton Yoga Festival, which was great. It all went really well, it was great and I'm so comfortable. A live breathwork thing at Brighton Yoga Festival, which was great, it all went really well, it was great and I'm so comfortable now leading breathwork.
Speaker 1:But even then it was when I started talking to the group. I suddenly felt my heart and I you know I had been breathing to come. But I suddenly got that feeling of like, oh my gosh, my, my body's kind of showing me that I am still really nervous about these things. And I calmed it. It calmed down, but it was that same feeling of like, what am I saying? What am I saying? But you know, no, I don't think anyone noticed.
Speaker 1:So that, again, you just got to get on with it, you just got to do it. And afterwards, when you just carry on through, you just get that real buzz of like, yes, I've done it and you know you can do it. And then it's just, each time you do, it just feels a little bit more comfortable, a little bit more comfortable. It's those neural pathways which we've talked about before. You know, when you're doing anything new, anything a little bit different, it is just creating a very new pathway through in your brain and the more you do it, the more you do it, the wider that pathway becomes, the wider it becomes, and when it becomes wide enough, then it just starts to feel easy. It's like that traffic can flow through and we feel more comfortable doing it. So that's what we're doing each time we're stretching ourselves, we're building those neural pathways, they're getting stronger and it does become so much easier.
Speaker 1:So you know, I'm watching you, lucy, from your first instagram live to now. It's just been a revelation. So you, you know, you were genuinely terrified, oh my god. And now you're so, and now you're so comfortable. So, yeah, that's a really good example, but but well, thank you.
Speaker 1:But but also, I'm not always that comfortable and I do a lot of things.
Speaker 2:I still do a lot of things, like like in my membership, for I've solo like I, you know, obviously I don't I'm not like terrified before every, every live call, but I have to run those calls and sometimes they go on for an hour and a half, up to two hours. It's me who's leading them and sometimes it's not easy. You know you've got to keep the conversation going or you've got to. Perhaps you know someone's been talking for too long and you've got to kind of interrupt and you know, move on someone else, and there's a whole, it's a whole freaking thing and I still, um, still get a bit nervous about that. And also going back to one thing you said about going bright red the number of times I've just been thinking like I am just talking such a load of shite right now and I'll feel myself blush, and then it will kind of, and then, and then you feel even worse because you're like, oh my god, now I've gone bright red. Everyone can see that I'm really uncomfortable. This is so awkward, but again it's just like ask yourself what is the worst that can happen. I cannot tell you how many times I've been on a thrive solo live call and I felt like I've said something completely dickish or you know, if I went back and watched all of those live calls, I would just I would cringe, I mean it would just be beyond, and I never would, for exactly that reason. But you just, the more you do it and the more you just sit with that discomfort and you just go. Yes, I went bright red and started sweating profusely, but hey, what's the fucking worst that can happen, okay. So maybe someone went oh look, lucy's gone, bright red and she's slightly sweaty. Oh, my god, like what is the worst that can happen? You get through it, you get through it and then you know, and, and no one gives a shit, and what is the worst that can happen?
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I think, and also I think we have to remind ourselves that anyone who gets anywhere in life, anyone who achieves anything that they want to, all of the, all of the successful people that you can think about, have have failed multiple times. I don't even believe in failure. It's not, not even a thing. It's just like everybody gets things wrong, everybody, everybody starts from scratch and everybody you know people who are so professional at what they do and are so brilliant at it. They started from zero, they had to learn, they had to go through discomfort, they had to go through embarrassment, they had to go through all of these things to get to where they are now.
Speaker 2:And so I would say also just, you know, remember the reason you want to do something like, if you like, going back to the conversation with your boss like, what is your why? Well, your why is that you know that you're worth more than you're being paid. That is your why. So let that carry you through to that conversation. Let that give you the courage that you need and ask yourself what is the worst that's going to happen.
Speaker 1:If he says no, he says no yeah, you know um and one last thing is another thing where you can really try and show yourself that you are more capable and you can build that resilience. Things like cold water, having a turning your shower down to cold at the end of your shower just for 20 seconds, 30 seconds again, just those sorts of things can really prove yourself. It's like can I do it? Can I get uncomfortable for that little amount of time and you know, it's actually really good for you as well to do that sort of thing but you can actually do it very simply and then go oh yes, I can do that. I'm actually more capable than I think, and that just builds your resilience. And that's what we're doing here. We're building resilience for for the outside world, because there are stuff, tough things which go on. But the more resilient you are because you've got uncomfortable, then the stronger you're going to be and the easier things are going to feel ultimately, yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 2:we're back. We're back tomorrow, aren't we, because we're getting a couple in the can. Are we back tomorrow or Thursday? Oh gosh, I need to check getting a couple in the can. Are we back tomorrow or Thursday? Oh gosh, I need to check my diary. I don't know. I think it's tomorrow. It's tomorrow, okay, I think it's tomorrow, but I mean, I wrote it in my diary. I think it's either tomorrow or Thursday, I think, and we're definitely doing an extra one this week anyway.
Speaker 1:God knows what. We'll be back. Brilliant, all right. Thank you very much everybody for watching um, and yeah, we'll, uh, we'll be back whenever we're back, maybe tomorrow.
Speaker 2:All right, have a good day, thank you, you too. Bye.